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(5)Entering Altered States of Consciousness
April 16, 2012
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Diana,

As I read your reply, I realized that Coyote (actually, mine is a male also, named Akela) has helped me get out of all the boxes that I've been able to get out of so far, exactly because everything is sacred and nothing is sacred. And as for Snake, yes, my life has been like a walk through wormholes, my changes are instant once I'm aware, which sends my relatives and friends into a spin. Wink

I feel great honor and peace in the presence of animals but I don't know how to “work” with them, how to ask for their help and then understand their wisdom. I read a lot about animal guides in the past but most of it seemed directed to people's desire to control, like most New Age stuff, in my opinion. It led me to shamanism but what I saw there was not attractive at all.

And whose help could I ask to overcome self-judgment? I suppose it may be Coyote, too.

Thanks so much. Kiss

DP,

LOL.  I understand completely about those changes.  Drives people nuts, doesn't it?  

I believe you are interacting with the animals at a far deeper level than you realize.  Of course, all of the communication is via telepathy.  If you have a question, just form the question in your head (not in your mind/ego) and send it out.  You will get a response extremely quickly and it will come in the same place in your head as where you sent it out.

I, too, moved through traditional shamanism and went on to continue to do it myself. I had been doing it all my life and they told me it was wrong.  I knew it was right and just left.

Lizard is very good at helping you detach from your ego, which is where the self-judgment lies.  Coyote will help with it also…but in his own way.  You may not even realize what he is doing.

Kiss

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April 16, 2012
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Ahh, not too long ago I found an almost complete lizard skin, and one time on a hike, a lizard sat down right next to me and stayed for quite a while, it was great. Cool 

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Ahh, not too long ago I found an almost complete lizard skin, and one time on a hike, a lizard sat down right next to me and stayed for quite a while, it was great. Cool 

See it came to you without you even asking.  They are great that way.

Kiss

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DanubePilot said:

Ahh, not too long ago I found an almost complete lizard skin, and one time on a hike, a lizard sat down right next to me and stayed for quite a while, it was great. Cool 

See it came to you without you even asking.  They are great that way.

Kiss

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Diana,

This was a glorious day. I got my work done in the morning and then went for a hike. There is a canyon near our house where once you turn the corner on the trail, you leave civilization behind. (The town itself is very small, too.) You're just surrounded by mountains and the blue Arizona sky. I love mountains, and rocks. We in the high desert have both in abundance! So my soul was at immediate peace, a nice breeze took the edge off the heat. After about a mile on the trail, I came upon an old fence and decided to turn back and bushwhack up to a peak. I was talking to every tiny flower and cactus that I saw among the rocks. Then I sighed, too bad we don't see any raptors up here; to which a Sharp-shinned Hawk popped up right above my head, circling a few times. I was thinking about all the things you and I had talked about and the things I read on the site. Not heavy thinking just “processing.” All the while feeling very light and delighted by nature. And scrambling up the thorny, rocky mountainside. Just before the top, I came upon a large rock with a narrow crevice running vertically in the middle. I was hoisting myself up to it when I saw a small lizard dart into the crevice.

I stopped and greeted her. She came right out and sat down opposite me, looking at me. We talked for several minutes. Then we said goodbye, I thanked her, and she went back into the crevice. I stayed a bit on the top, then took the careful journey down the loose rocks.

I'd say this was just as delightful as being on the planet of shapeshifters the other day! Smile

April 17, 2012
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DP,

What a lovely experience.  When one is able to speak to spirits of all kinds without fear, true wondrous moments arise.

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Drugs will absolutely hinder your ability to freely do this…freely being the operative word.  If you depend on drugs, then you have to get them, use them, and wait and see where THEY take you.  You are not able to maintain neutral intent while on drugs because the drugs are controlling the state, not you.  You need to control the altered state.

I have taught this to people for close to 30 years and it works, but only if that person is ready to do the work needed to get there…and spend the time to do it.  Most don’t want to put the time in that is necessary to learn what they need to learn, but there are those that are very serious about this and they are the ones that persevere and learn it…and it is an absolute honor to watch them expand.  

You all have time to do this and this is not a race to the finish.  It is about connecting to your soul and learning from it.  I “ain’t” grading papers here. Laugh

You will not get to beyond vibration unless you can enter an altered state, control it, form neutral intent, open the portal, and have the courage to step through it.

So please, practice these steps and move slowly.  I am not going anywhere…and I have the patience of a saint when it comes to teaching this.  Because each soul is unique, all of you will progress differently and at a different speed…and that is what makes your journey special…and why this forum exists for me to interact with each of you as you need to.

Kiss

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Diana, kind of a mundane question regarding influences: does coffee interfere with anything we are learning here? Thanks much.

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DP,

No, it doesn't…at least, it doesn't have any effect on me.

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AscendingAboveVibration said:

DP,

No, it doesn’t…at least, it doesn’t have any effect on me.

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Whew! I'd hate to give it up! Laugh

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DanubePilot said:

AscendingAboveVibration said:

DP,

No, it doesn't…at least, it doesn't have any effect on me.

d

Whew! I'd hate to give it up! Laugh

DP,

LOL.  Me too.

d

June 10, 2012
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Diana, I thought I'd just continue this thread since it had to do with animal guides (initially). In the last few days I've had several animals talk to me about my health, except they'd say somewhat contradictory things. I didn't think my mind was involved as I was careful to have neutral intent and the messages were quick, too quick to “interpret.” Roughly, one would say to pay attention and take care of my health issues, another would say there's nothing more to do; one would say to see a new naturopath, the other would say I'm just spinning my wheels. One even said I have a serious underlying condition, the other that I'm just going through a cleanse and to be patient with it. As I'm writing this, it sure seems like the mind grasping for an answer, but like I said, at the time it didn't seem that way. On each encounter, I'd ask the animal if it had something to say about anything, and they'd go into the health topic. Do you have any thoughts on this? I'd appreciate it.

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Hi DP,

 

I have the similar experience, bussy with my health issues..but no animal guides around me…

 

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I'm sorry to hear. Some days I'm totally at peace with it all but other times I'm rather frustrated.

Take care! Smile

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DanubePilot said:

Diana,

As I read your reply, I realized that Coyote (actually, mine is a male also, named Akela) has helped me get out of all the boxes that I've been able to get out of so far, exactly because everything is sacred and nothing is sacred. And as for Snake, yes, my life has been like a walk through wormholes, my changes are instant once I'm aware, which sends my relatives and friends into a spin. Wink

I feel great honor and peace in the presence of animals but I don't know how to “work” with them, how to ask for their help and then understand their wisdom. I read a lot about animal guides in the past but most of it seemed directed to people's desire to control, like most New Age stuff, in my opinion. It led me to shamanism but what I saw there was not attractive at all.

And whose help could I ask to overcome self-judgment? I suppose it may be Coyote, too.

Thanks so much. Kiss

DP

If your Coyote has helped you get out of all those boxes, then you have most certainly been working with Animal Spirits.  I suspect that you have been working with all manner of them all your life, but just don't realize it.  You have moved to where you are communicating with the animals soul to soul.  That is how I do it.

Working with Snake, Spider, and I suspect Butterfly and maybe Mantis and Grouse is what has been causing you to move with such speed.

It is obvious that your soul trusts these animals or you would not be working at the level you are.

It is good that you are not reading books, etc. but rather just doing the work because that is how you learn to do the work.

You can call on any animal to help you.  You are probably not going to realize that the animal has come until you gain a better understanding and trust that the animal will come and help you.

Just continue doing what you have been doing because you are doing stellar work.

Kiss

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DP,

Lizard is very good at movement through ego which is where self-judgement occurs.

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AscendingAboveVibration said:

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Diana, I thought I'd just continue this thread since it had to do with animal guides (initially). In the last few days I've had several animals talk to me about my health, except they'd say somewhat contradictory things. I didn't think my mind was involved as I was careful to have neutral intent and the messages were quick, too quick to “interpret.” Roughly, one would say to pay attention and take care of my health issues, another would say there's nothing more to do; one would say to see a new naturopath, the other would say I'm just spinning my wheels. One even said I have a serious underlying condition, the other that I'm just going through a cleanse and to be patient with it. As I'm writing this, it sure seems like the mind grasping for an answer, but like I said, at the time it didn't seem that way. On each encounter, I'd ask the animal if it had something to say about anything, and they'd go into the health topic. Do you have any thoughts on this? I'd appreciate it.

DP,

I would pay attention to the warning concerning health issues, even though you are getting different messages.

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If your Coyote has helped you get out of all those boxes, then you have most certainly been working with Animal Spirits.  I suspect that you have been working with all manner of them all your life, but just don’t realize it.  You have moved to where you are communicating with the animals soul to soul.  That is how I do it.

Working with Snake, Spider, and I suspect Butterfly and maybe Mantis and Grouse is what has been causing you to move with such speed.

It is obvious that your soul trusts these animals or you would not be working at the level you are.

It is good that you are not reading books, etc. but rather just doing the work because that is how you learn to do the work.

You can call on any animal to help you.  You are probably not going to realize that the animal has come until you gain a better understanding and trust that the animal will come and help you.

Just continue doing what you have been doing because you are doing stellar work.

Kiss

d

D,

Thank you, it's great to have you back. Sorry that you haven't felt well lately! You're right about Mantis. Pheasant, too, which I think is a relative of Grouse. I'm not aware of Butterfly; but Dragonfly, yes, and Moth.

The other day, a difficult day, a Hummer flew to my face, a Hawk circled low above the house, a Lizard stopped me in the laundry room, and a bucket was inundated with Cockroaches. They explained the situation, and I felt better. It's nice that I live in an area that's abundant with animals so I usually just talk to the ones that present themselves. I will practice calling on certain ones.

Hugs!

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DP,

Hugs back at ya!

Kiss

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(July, 2007) I woke up and felt my body was the same temperature as the air.  I unzipped the entrance to the tent, pitched in my mom's back yard, and the air outside was the same.  I stepped out in my bare feet and felt the damp grass, also the same.  My eyes gazed across the yard toward the bay and the water was calm.  As I considered the possibility, I suddenly felt a thrill from head to toe.  I looked around me at the bushes and the trees thinking the birds aren't up.  A thin mist hung in the air.  I started walking towards the water.  Neighbors all still in bed.  I recalled the many times over the years I walked the same path at different times of the day with the same thoughts .. will it be cold or painfully cold .. will I swim, dunk or just go up to my knees?  The rocks were painless, the tide was half way, the water was like a mirror.  I looked out towards the horizon as silk was slowly pulled over my feet to the top of my lip. My toes settled in the sand, my body became weightless and the sound of my breathing was now only in my head.   I was in a mirror image where mist blurred the division of water, land and sky.  As the light suddenly brightened behind Mount St. Joseph, creating a glow, my breathing and my thinking stopped. 

 

I still cannot explain what happened after that.  I felt infinitely small, infinitely large, sizeless and wholeness .. all at the same time.

 

Diana?

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(July, 2007) I woke up and felt my body was the same temperature as the air.  I unzipped the entrance to the tent, pitched in my mom's back yard, and the air outside was the same.  I stepped out in my bare feet and felt the damp grass, also the same.  My eyes gazed across the yard toward the bay and the water was calm.  As I considered the possibility, I suddenly felt a thrill from head to toe.  I looked around me at the bushes and the trees thinking the birds aren't up.  A thin mist hung in the air.  I started walking towards the water.  Neighbors all still in bed.  I recalled the many times over the years I walked the same path at different times of the day with the same thoughts .. will it be cold or painfully cold .. will I swim, dunk or just go up to my knees?  The rocks were painless, the tide was half way, the water was like a mirror.  I looked out towards the horizon as silk was slowly pulled over my feet to the top of my lip. My toes settled in the sand, my body became weightless and the sound of my breathing was now only in my head.   I was in a mirror image where mist blurred the division of water, land and sky.  As the light suddenly brightened behind Mount St. Joseph, creating a glow, my breathing and my thinking stopped. 

 

I still cannot explain what happened after that.  I felt infinitely small, infinitely large, sizeless and wholeness .. all at the same time.

 

Diana?

Rachael,

Was this in real time, a dream, a waking vision?

Kiss

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